Winnie vs. Joey January 11, 2005

So I came to this realization that Katie "Joey Potter" Holmes is really just the late 90s/early 00s version of Danica "Winnie Cooper" McKellar. Others probably have thought about this long before me, but I'm slow, sue me. So if Winnie and Joey ever went head to head, who'd win? Let's find out.

The Wonder Years
What would you do, if I sang out of tune?
Show:
The two shows are eerily similar. Both shows Wonder Years (WY) and Dawson's Creek (DC) lasted five years (WY [1988-1993] and DC [1998-2003]. Both series' featured an idiot boy with a crush on the girl next door. DC upped the ante by replacing the Paul Pfeiffer character with Pacey. Both also used music very effectively. Both (brunette) girls-next-door had blonde competition. Both shows killed off the idiot boy's father. Both shows ended with the idiot boy not ending up with the girl next door. Finally, I lost interest in both shows after the third season but kept watching them until they ended. So really the shows were almost identical. That being said, Wonder Years was infinitely better than DC. If you asked me this same question after season 2 of DC then I may have answered differently. But looking at the life of each show, WY is clearly the winner. The last WY episode was sentimental whereas DC was just retarded. WY does have a big strike against it since all the kids hit puberty during the lifetime of the show; it's a good thing DC didn't have to deal with that problem. Also, WY was the first show to use music and voice-overs effectively.
Dawson's Creek
I don't want to wait...for this show to be cancelled

Danica McKellar
The 60s Joey Potter
Looks:
This one was tough. Both have girl-next-door looks and appeal. There is a decade difference between the shows and since WY is set a few years (age wise) and 35 years (timeline wise) earlier than DC, I think the edge goes to Joey. She's just older (read: hotter) than Winnie when the shows aired. In real-life, both of them are hot so I would say it's a push. I know a lot of people will disagree with me but I stand by the decision. Although, this Katie Holme's "lip biting" picture is real nice. On the show, Joey, definitely, in real life, probably a push.
Katie Holmes
The 90s/00s Winnie Cooper (mmmm...sexy lip biting picture)

Danica McKellar
Don't let the headshot fool you, Winnie wasn't that tough.
Personality:
Winnie was always nice and somewhat plain. Joey was nice and tried to make herself plain but I always got this "She'd be great in bed" and "she could probably turn into an uber-bitch if you crossed her" vibe from her. Plus, Winnie was a prude, unlike Joey. Again, this may have something to do with the fact that WY takes place in the 60s vs. the DC taking place in 00s but still. Joey clearly gets the edge.
Katie Holmes
Great in bed: check
Uber-bitch: check

The Wonder Years
Winnie really was part of the Arnold family
Family:
I really don't remember much about Winnie's family. I think her parents were okay but I do remember that her brother died in Vietnam. Joey on the other hand a dad who was drug dealing (just to get by) and spent most of his time in jail, a mom who died early, and a sister that was gossiped about by the entire town. Family wise, the edge clearly goes to Winnie (for lack of information) but you have to give Joey credit for being normal despite her family. I am going to call this a push since an argument can be made for both sides.
Dawson's Creek
Joey's extended family (since hers was so messed up)

Winnie & Kevin
Kevin Arnold: Man of Mystery
Boyfriends:
So Winnie was with Kevin and Joey was with Dawson. Make no mistake, both Kevin and Dawson are huge tools. Both had awful hair, dressed funny, were awkward around girls, awkward around everyone...really, just tools. Neither Winnie or Joey ended up with Kevin and Dawson, respectively (good for them). Even though both were lame, Kevin was a "I feel bad for this" Tool and Dawson was a "What a jackass" Tool. Besides, Kevin had a crush on Winnie right from the start and it took Dawson three years to get off his ass and finally notice Joey. I don't know a single person (guy or girl) that would ever like Jen over Joey. Which brings me to my next point...
Joey & Dawson
Joey's likes: large foreheads, bad hair, and idiots

Julie Condra
It's a mad, mad, mad, Madeline world
Competition:
Winnie's competition was Madeline, the new girl in Kevin's French class. The reason I still remember her name (first name anyways) is because she was smoking. Anyone could easily see why Kevin would like Madeline. As for DC, even if you could buy into the concept of Joey liking the teenage John Tesh and buy into the fact that no other guy in Capeside hit on Joey there is no way anyone could buy anyone liking Jen over Joey. Okay...if you only cared about sex, then I can see why someone would pick Jen, she was whore. Even if the decision was based on personality, you'd come to the same conclusion. Jen was sooo annoying, Madeline was seductive. Joey loses points for losing out plain Jane and Winnie gains points for beating out Madeline.
Michelle Williams
No one would pick her over Katie Holmes.

Camp Cucamonga
Starring the Who's Who of Hollywood...circa 1990
Post Show Career Part I:
No doubt, both shows put each actress on the map. When I first thought about this, clearly Joey is the winner. Katie Holmes went on to make First Daughter, Abandon, Batman Begins and during the show filmed Go, Teaching Mrs. Tingle, Wonder Boys, and The Gift. While only Wonder Boys (and probably Batman Begins) are commercial successes at least major studios released the other movies. Danica was in Sidekicks (that movie with Chuck Norris) and Camp Cucamonga (also starring Paul Pfeiffer sans glasses by the way) during Wonder Years and pretty much did voice stuff afterwards. I don't recognize any of the movies she's been in since WY.
First Daughter
At least it was in theaters (granted for two weeks)

Danica McKellar
Danica went on to math superstardom
Post Show Career Part II:
Movie wise, Katie Holmes is clearly the winner but Danica actually wins if you look at things outside of just starring in movies. Granted she may not have been in any major motion pictures but she's been a producer, writer, and director for two movies and she co-authored a math proof. CO-AUTHORED A MATH PROOF! What the fuck! The proof, called "Percolation and Gibbs states multiplicity for ferromagnetic Ashkin–Teller models on Z2" starts with ... who am I kidding. Even though I dominated math, I tried to read it and am unsure what most of it means. If you have the time and the understanding take a look at the proof. The proof includes a nice graph that looks eerily familiar to my 1st grade plans to take over a rival snow fort, which at the time I dubbed "The Taking Of Westlands Park."
Katie Holmes
Katie went on to Chris Klein, proving her love of big foreheads.

Danica McKellar
Maybe's she not so sweet and innocent
Fight Club:
So for the last category, I thought I'd compare who would win in a straigh-up fight, Cooper vs. Potter Deathmatch. I think the answer is obvious: Joey "Mad Dog" Potter. 60s prim-and-proper Winnie would be no match for rough-and-tumble Joey. First and most obvious, I don't think 60s girls were all that tough as girls today so Joey already has the edge there. Second, Joey has attitude and Winnie was more of a wallflower, she only seemed tougher than she actually was because Kevin was a such a baby. Joey grew up on a creek wrestling alligators. This was never discussed during the show but I'm sure it happened. Finally, Joey's dad was a jail-bird. Growing up she probably learned so many ways to kill people (subconsciously and consciously). The Potter family probably cut the Thanksgiving Turkey with a shiv and instead of stuffing, it was filled with dime-bags, cigarettes, and syringes.
Katie Holmes
Potter clearly has attitude

So there you have it. If you go by looks on the show, then it's a draw. If you go by looks in real life, and you think Winnie is hotter or it's a push, then Winnie wins. Personally, I think Winnie is really hot (not necessarily hotter than Katie Holmes), and that coupled with the fact that she's super smart give her the edge, so she ends up winning overall. USA should be setting up a "Winnie Wins" headline immediately. What really boggles my mind is the post show careers. There is no reason that Danica McKellar shouldn't have had the same career as Katie Holmes. I'm sure she's doing well and is happy with the math-proof and her growing list of movies but still, she should have been headlining movies for the past 10 years. She could have easily launched several WB projects, hell, I think she could have been cast on any one the WBs shows. I wonder if she is sitting back someplace thinking the same thing?

Probably not since I am the only monkey that thinks of these things.
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